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Postby Bisexual Lightning » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:46 pm

Trey backing up Jeff tho would be quite tasty, as would Jeff jamming along with Trey / queuing hits and riffs together
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Postby howiep » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:47 pm

Trey, Page, Jeff and Glen. Jeff can play bass.
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Postby Bisexual Lightning » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:50 pm

Jay Bennett & Jeff Holdsworth
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Postby jewels » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:51 pm

Jeff is a really good lead guitarist, and he doesn't do it much anymore because the band is too big and talented.

Also, he's kinda turning into Jerry Garcia.
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Postby jewels » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:12 am

don don that "golden age" is a cover song.

i'm told I did mushrooms with TVOTR right before they got famous, but I'll just have to take my memories word on if that is true.
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Postby rich uncle skeleton » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:05 am

Quigley wrote:Race registration is open! Me and Dinosauria are in! You all should do it too!

https://www.athlinks.com/event/the-102nd-running-of-the-first-annual-runaway-jim-5k-102665

I've never puked at a phish concert before, so that'll be something new.


Is there a shirt for this thing? I'm only doing a 5k if I get a shirt
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Postby jewels » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:20 am

walk me through where Trey is at this stage in his life.

he looks . . . off

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Postby Althea » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:22 am

There absolutely is a shirt, which I purchased! It's optional but you can order one when you register.
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Postby rich uncle skeleton » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:24 am

Well that's 2 months before Coventry so I'm sure he was in some darkness at that point but June 2004 is a solid month all around, especially the SPAC shows, and this is one of my favorite Moma's
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Postby Althea » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:28 am

Jewels, I think it's a combination of drugs, regret, sadness, drugs, shame, and drugs. Weeks before the June shows Trey announced the breakup of the band with this letter:

http://phish.com/news/an-announcement-from-trey/

They'd tried to sort themselves out during the first hiatus, but they didn't do enough to change their organization or their lives before coming back. Trey spent some of 2002/2003 sober, but by the April 2004 Vegas shows he was obviously off the wagon. (Jesse Jarnow's wrote a harsh review of those Vegas shows, and Mike later told Jarnow that the review was discussed during the band breakup meeting.)
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Postby rich uncle skeleton » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:29 am

Quigley wrote:There absolutely is a shirt, which I purchased! It's optional but you can order one when you register.

Alright ya convinced me, I just signed up
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Postby Fr. Blanc » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:29 am

Jewels, that's the first show after The Announcement that came out a few weeks earlier and not too long after Vegas '04 which was kind of a mess, an example of which you can hear here: (disclaimer I actually like this Bag, but Trey is lost)

http://phishtracks.com/shows/2004-04-15/ac-dc-bag

04 on a night to night basis you did not know which Trey would show up. There's parts of those Brooklyn shows that were sharp and the SPAC run shortly thereafter is an all-timer. But during those two separate summer tours, they are clearly in a bad way and entrenched in the habits that lead to the 04-09 break.
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Postby Fr. Blanc » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:30 am

nice, Quigley. we even formatted our posts alike
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Postby Althea » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:32 am

And yeah they managed some all-time great music in June and August of 2004 amid the chaos. One of my favourite videos from that time (which I'll try and find later) is them playing on the Letterman marquee in NYC. Trey calls for Tweezer Reprise to close the set but just stands around until Page reminds him that the guitarist starts the song (you can see Page do a little air guitar and then Trey does and "oh yeah" motion and plays it).
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Postby Althea » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:32 am

Haha, phish fans love answering questions about phish.
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Postby jewels » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:50 am

Quigley wrote:Haha, phish fans love answering questions about phish.


this was one of my key takeaway from my limited show experience, if I had a question people would be overly happy to answer my question.
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Postby Bisexual Lightning » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:05 pm

just don’t take acid at 3pm when it’s 90 degrees after running that race

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Postby jewels » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:10 pm

rich uncle skeleton wrote:Well that's 2 months before Coventry so I'm sure he was in some darkness at that point but June 2004 is a solid month all around, especially the SPAC shows, and this is one of my favorite Moma's


agree that this is a particularly good Moma, which I hadn't really taken to yet.

Particularly like the muted fret jam.
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Postby jewels » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:14 pm

exactly that, yes
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Postby jewels » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:17 pm

which is cool because it's like the easiest and most fun thing to do on the guitar, and I put it in like every song I did before I was good at guitar, but damnit if it isn't perfect here.
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Postby jewels » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:18 pm

it made me think of this, which I haven't heard in a really long time

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Postby Bisexual Lightning » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:49 pm

Guy Incognito wrote:remember when the only videos of phish were brooklyn '04, vegas '00, bittersweet motel, and your friend's bootleg Cypress DVD he loaned to mark and never got back?

thank god for YouTube.. also sick Mark O ref, I see him at shows every years. Cool that Jake Silco is an official photog for Mike shows and certain Phish events these days!

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Postby howiep » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:03 pm

Just want to touch back on how sick June 04 was at times and re-recommend the Seven Below set 2 opener from Alpine Valley night 1. HOT
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Postby Bisexual Lightning » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:54 pm

also a lot of August 2004... Hampton Set 1, Great Woods N1 Birds of a Feather is incredible, the AC/DC Bag, Mike's Groove, and Hood are all very good, Great Woods N2 has a great DWD, good playing, and totally unique set construction throughout, and Camden has a pretty top tier jam for me in the Scents and Subtle Sounds and is otherwise good all around.
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Postby Fr. Blanc » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:58 pm

Nothing in August sounded good at the time. It’s sad bc I do know there are highlights, Im just not able to hear it objectively to this day. Weird weird times.
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Postby Fr. Blanc » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:04 pm

I think in retrospect it was that Hampton Bowie encore that buried me. It got so dark. All I remember was typing in my flip phone during it “Tyrannasaurus Bowie.”

Then I just went through the motions the rest of the week in a daze. I remember at my last show (what I thought was my last show) at Camden, they open with Wilson. On the 2nd or 3rd Duh-Duh it struck me so clearly. I have no idea why but I was DONE. Walked out, said goodbye to the 04 crew, and bailed on my Coventry tickets.
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Postby Fr. Blanc » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:10 pm

almost 14 years to the day I will be making my return to Camden 8-)
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Postby Bisexual Lightning » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:52 pm

wow!
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Postby vhg » Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:14 am

and jewels didn't want that Camden reunion to happen for you
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Postby Fr. Blanc » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:18 am

Ahhhaha
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