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Postby Poptone » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:50 pm

Guy Incognito wrote:where does a balrog rank on the list of "most horrible creatures middle earth can throw at a guy"


At the end of the Third Age? Nothing short of Sauron himself, probably.
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Postby Durham » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:56 pm

these movies are good
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Postby blues » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:16 pm

the one thing i'm still mad about is that may it be didn't get best song at the academy awards. it lost to some randy newman song. yeah he's great but c'mon enya was born for this shit.

at least howard shore won twice for what can only be described as a heartbreaking work of staggering genius.
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Postby joe » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:27 am

a friend of mine obsessively plays lord of the rings online
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Postby joe » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:32 am

everyone should listen to the bbc's 12 hour radio theater version of lotr. I've listened to it at least three times now:
(1) Driving from Iowa to Washington at age 10 in a Uhaul with my dad
(2) Driving from Florida to Washington at age 18 in a Uhaul with my brother-in-law
(3) Driving from Texas to Colorado at age 27 in a Uhaul by myself

also to second what everyone else said:
i have all the fond childhood reverence for lotr and the hobbit that has never remotely left as an adult. I love the lotr movies and can't stand the hobbit ones.
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Postby reversemigraine » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:45 am

My dad was legit heartbroken that the movies didn't include the line, "You ought not to be rude to an eagle, when you are only the size of a hobbit, and you are up in his eyrie at night!"

He doesn't read a whole lot, but for some reason that line has always stuck with him and he mentions it anytime The Hobbit comes up in discussion.
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Postby Petty » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:01 am

Poptone wrote:
Guy Incognito wrote:where does a balrog rank on the list of "most horrible creatures middle earth can throw at a guy"


At the end of the Third Age? Nothing short of Sauron himself, probably.


The balrog killed Gandalf and all of them including Sauron are the same type of being (Maiar), so it'd be interesting to get them in the ring together.

Edit: NM, Gandalf killed the balrog and then died of exhaustion or whatever
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Postby Rainbow Battle Kid » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:07 am

yeah it was weird reading the silmarillion and realizing sauron is just morgoth's little buddy.
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Postby Poptone » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:26 am

I'm always so torn on whether or not I'd like to see the Silmarillion adapted, at least in part. On the one hand, yeah I'd love to see Morgoth fucking some shit up in Thangorodrim but on the other there's probably no feasible way to do it and it'd turn out to be a slightly more palatable Clash of the Titans.

I suppose Beren and Luthien is the story that lends itself most readily to adaptation.
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Postby Viz » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:40 am

Guess I should finally read the Silmarillion, huh?
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Postby Rainbow Battle Kid » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:41 am

ya it slays.
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Postby Poptone » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:53 am

Viz wrote:Guess I should finally read the Silmarillion, huh?


hell yeah

i'm due for a re-read myself.
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Postby Kwisatz Haderach » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:53 am

More dangerous - balrog in lord of the rings or balrog in street fighter 2?
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Postby iwillneverpost » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:54 am

Poptone wrote:
Guy Incognito wrote:where does a balrog rank on the list of "most horrible creatures middle earth can throw at a guy"


At the end of the Third Age? Nothing short of Sauron himself, probably.


Yeah, the Balrog is a fallen Maiar, so at the time, only Sauron and Gandalf would have topped it. I think Saruman and Radagast (and the blue guys) were the only other Maiar still kicking around, and neither of them could have stepped to the Balrog.

Maybe Tom Bombadil.
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Postby iwillneverpost » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:55 am

I guess Glorfindel could have as well. He's done it before.
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Postby Poptone » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:01 am

iwillneverpost wrote:Maybe Tom Bombadil.


this is a good dark horse candidate

we can safely add galadriel to the list of those who could conceivably square off against a balrog, i think
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Postby Kwisatz Haderach » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:02 am

Zinfandel the white, possibly.
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Postby Fullscreen » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:03 am

Poptone wrote:I'm always so torn on whether or not I'd like to see the Silmarillion adapted, at least in part. On the one hand, yeah I'd love to see Morgoth fucking some shit up in Thangorodrim but on the other there's probably no feasible way to do it and it'd turn out to be a slightly more palatable Clash of the Titans.

I suppose Beren and Luthien is the story that lends itself most readily to adaptation.

One of the best parts of the movies is the prologue of fellowship. Pithy but detailed. I could almost go for a version of the silmarillion that played out like that.

Which would be impossible, but you know.
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Postby Sobieski » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:16 am

Viz wrote:Guess I should finally read the Silmarillion, huh?

My impression of the silmarillion has always been that's it some kind of christian creation story with elves?
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Postby reversemigraine » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:18 am

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Viz wrote:Guess I should finally read the Silmarillion, huh?

My impression of the silmarillion has always been that's it some kind of christian creation story with elves?


The creation myth is the first chapter, and isn't long, IIRC.
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Postby Poptone » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:20 am

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Viz wrote:Guess I should finally read the Silmarillion, huh?

My impression of the silmarillion has always been that's it some kind of christian creation story with elves?


no more than it's a greek or celtic mythology story

it's not like we're dealing with C.S. Lewis here
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Postby reversemigraine » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:22 am

Yeah, the creation story is basically Illuvatar and the Ainur singing and then Melkor fucks things up.
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Postby Sobieski » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:22 am

But that's also because I tried to read it when I was 12 and stopped reading after the first 2 chapters
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Postby Petty » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:24 am

The Silmarillion is written in more archaic language than The Lord of the Rings and is basically like a collection of mythology for the world

Tolkien made sure to make it line up with Christianity though it isn't an explicit or even important part of it. Illuvatar is God and outside of the world, and the "gods" in the world are equivalent to angels
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Postby Poptone » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:26 am

the bible doesn't even have any sentient cosmic god-spiders, what a dumb mythology
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Postby Bartatua » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:59 am

Rainbow Battle Kid wrote:yeah it was weird reading the silmarillion and realizing sauron is just morgoth's little buddy.


it's good for everyone to have a little buddy
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Postby Kwisatz Haderach » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:11 pm

Like skipper and gilligan
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Postby joe » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:15 pm

I like when Elrond whomps Sauron with his hat
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Postby Rainbow Battle Kid » Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:46 am

this thread finally got me to play my copy of shadow of mordor that's been sitting around since last christmas.

it's fun!
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Postby reversemigraine » Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:20 am

Thread convinced me to start a read-through. For all the Tolkien stuff I've read or bought over the past decade, I realized that I haven't read LOTR straight through since the movies came out.

I'd forgotten just how different The Ring Sets Out is from the first half of the Fellowship movie.
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