Stuntman wrote:Does anyone remember Late Night Cheeseburger? That was my jam. Tasted like BO.
Stuntman wrote:Does anyone remember Late Night Cheeseburger? That was my jam. Tasted like BO.
luke [9:08 AM]
joined #slaintebahailebackroo, and invited @anton, @alice, @laserblast, @neil_painter, @surly.the.spiv, @trask, @tue, @drew, @catullus
luke [9:08 AM]
set the channel purpose: m
This is a room for people that I think I can work with and/or that I have good hunches about, for the purposes of coordinating efforts. This is *not* a confirmed good room, merely a suspected good room.
luke [9:09 AM]
So, at the risk of repeating myself, I have _pretty good_ feelings about the people in here.
[9:11]
That is not to say that privileged and secret information should be bandied about, there's nobody that's completely vetted, unless I accidentally grabbed a few members of the book club.
john_plainman [9:12 AM]
joined #slaintebahailebackroo by invitation from @luke
luke [9:12 AM]
And pierrot, who was honestly too irritating in our private conversation to be a wolf.
[9:16]
So that being said, it's likely one of us will die before too long, and I want to brainstorm what we can do to be of the most use to the Medium when we do.
drew [9:27 AM]
why did you leave out palmer and bread
luke [9:27 AM]
Didn't have strong hunches.
drew [9:28 AM]
ok
luke [9:28 AM]
I'm making no claims about this list being airtight.
drew [9:29 AM]
I bet there is at least one wolf in here
luke [9:29 AM]
That is statistically a realistic possibility.
[9:30]
I'm not asking anyone to assume that this room is safe, or that I'm safe.
drew [9:31 AM]
you take a long time to type
luke [9:32 AM]
But we can work on ideas in here, we can figure out how to help the medium in such a way that a wolf hearing it won't affect it.
[9:32]
I have to phrase things carefully.
drew [9:32 AM]
right
luke [9:33 AM]
If the detective's in here, I'm open to a scan.
[9:34]
I don't know if I'll be alive, so I can't say it's a good idea, but assuming I'm kept alive for a little longer, I'm okay with getting on top of forming a trusted cabal.
[9:36]
But I haven't spoken much to palmer, you think he's worth trying to vet?
drew [9:37 AM]
I like palmer, so I'm biased
luke [9:38 AM]
Well, he wasn't very forthcoming, but I'm not opposed to adding him later.
[9:38]
bread was very hot and cold.
neil_painter [9:44 AM]
Oh hey cool a confirmed good room
[9:45]
drew [9:45 AM]
this is not that neil
neil_painter [9:45 AM]
I know drew
drew [9:45 AM]
luke [9:45 AM]
Pinned a message. See all pinned items in this channel.
neil_painter
Oh hey cool a confirmed good room
Yesterday at 9:44 AM
john_plainman [9:47 AM]
We are all good in the eyes of the lord
luke [9:49 AM]
You don't have to rp in here, it's a private room.
drew [9:49 AM]
you should invite steve roleplay
luke [9:49 AM]
Who's that again?
drew [9:49 AM]
Im not serious
[9:49]
its hound
neil_painter [9:49 AM]
Hound
luke [9:50 AM]
Ah.
[9:50]
Has he ever backchanneled?
neil_painter [9:52 AM]
His only attempt at backchanneling was trying to cheat with the wolves in my game
drew [9:52 AM]
he was in wolfchat #4
[9:52]
because he was the sorceror
[9:52]
and he was a loose cannon that kept picking fights in slack and almost got himself lynched more than once
neil_painter [9:53 AM]
Lol yea that sounds like hound
drew [9:53 AM]
so we brought him in so we could keep better tabs on him cause we still didnt have the seer yet and we needed his scans
neil_painter [9:53 AM]
Best player
tue [9:54 AM]
hey all
drew [9:54 AM]
his name is pretty much a relative to wolf so
[9:54]
hey tue
john_plainman [10:07 AM]
Luke, I only roleplay in the bedroom with the ladies of the night.
[10:07]
Brother drew has made my acquaintance with many such women, bless him
[10:08]
Praise the flowery God and let his shining light flow from your vessel
john_plainman [10:12 AM]
left #slaintebahailebackroo
luke [10:12 AM]
Alright, my mistake there.
drew [10:14 AM]
I just clicked your picture and it gave me the option to boot you from your own channel
luke [10:17 AM]
Well that would be hilarious.
luke [4:15 PM]
See, working out Medium messages would've been a good idea.
neil_painter [4:24 PM]
I would agree but what do you suggest
luke [4:26 PM]
I don't know, I was hoping someone else had some insight.
neil_painter [4:42 PM]
Hmm. I mean most of us probably don't actually know anything to tell the medium. I know I don't
[4:43]
And we don't know who to trust until they're dead, at which point it's too late to tell them any secrets
[4:45]
Maybe someone who has an important message for the medium could put it in code somehow and send it out to the group, then whoever dies next gives it to the medium
[4:45]
But you'd have to get the decoding logic to the medium still
[4:46]
I dunno, just thinking aloud but I'm not sure how to use this little group yet
luke [4:47 PM]
I don't know either, but I'd rather talk than not.
neil_painter [4:47 PM]
Yea it's been quiet so far this game
[4:47]
I've been guilty of it too, been busy, but I'm ready to start getting more into it
[4:50]
What do you make of Palmer
[4:50]
That could be real dangerous
luke [4:55 PM]
Yeah. I don't think any side'll get in touch, it's too risky, but if he's out there as a tanner, he's only gonna get more frantic.
neil_painter [4:56 PM]
I've been thinking since we always nk day 1 anyway... Maybe we just give him what he wants
[4:56]
Is there a downside to letting him win like that
luke [4:56 PM]
Just get him off the table?
neil_painter [4:57 PM]
Yea it eliminates the possibility of the radicals actually using him
[4:57]
I don't think we should risk using him for sure
[4:59]
Doesn't seem like he gets a revenge kill either
laserblast [5:09 PM]
That's a hell of a leap to 100% assume he is Tanner. But it's certainly a possibility. Anyway at dinner follow up later
neil_painter [5:11 PM]
I'm not 100% sure he's telling the truth - it could be a ballsy vhb-style fakeout for a good special I guess - but I'm leaning towards believing him at least
floyd [5:39 PM]
joined #slaintebahailebackroo by invitation from @luke
luke [5:40 PM]
If he's the tanner, let's just ask him what he's willing to offer here.
floyd [5:40 PM]
sup
[5:40]
I am actually pretty busy with family stuff
[5:40]
but I can try to answer q's intermittently
[5:41]
i am the tanner
[5:42]
actually I got about 15 minutes
[5:43]
whats this place
luke [5:44 PM]
This is the back room of my pub. We don't trust each other, but it's better than nothing.
[5:46]
And I think Neil/7a was a proponent of just killing you, then, as you can see, laserblast said it might be a sneaky ploy.
[5:46]
I'm not sure which way I go, but tbh I was probably going to vote no kill first day anyway.
floyd [5:46 PM]
I agree that it is unlikely either side will make contact
[5:47]
however the threat in a close endgame probably makes it worth eliminating me now
[5:47]
on the traditional nk day it has no downside
neil_painter [5:49 PM]
that was my argument i have to admit
[5:49]
if this is a sneaky ploy maybe let us know because otherwise i'm leaning towards just killing you. we've seen how tanners can screw the village if they stick around
[5:49]
(this was a great tanner play btw)
[5:51]
also, fyi for everyone else, i think i've figured out a way the detective or another special can get in touch with/confirm the medium, and i'm gonna post it in the thread. there may be holes and it's complicated but it's an idea
floyd [5:51 PM]
no ploy
[5:51]
all play
neil_painter [5:59 PM]
Well then I say we give you what you want :grinning:
alice [6:00 PM]
left #slaintebahailebackroo
laserblast [6:35 PM]
Palmer is your play here to annoy us into killing you with amusing roleplay?
floyd [6:36 PM]
I coulda said please kill me cause you all like me
[6:36]
but this seemed more fun
----- Today February 21st, 2016 -----
laserblast [8:24 AM]
Okay, friends
[8:24]
The fuck is going on
[8:24]
I'll hang up and listen
luke [9:08 AM]
I haven't had any further contact with floyd since I invited him here.
floyd [9:09 AM]
true
luke [9:10 AM]
So I don't know what's going on.
[9:11]
But if floyd's the tanner, I'm not really worried, tbh.
[9:11]
I am curious about Alice's reasoning.
tue [9:49 AM]
What interaction did you have with Alice before you formed the group?
drew [10:09 AM]
I know what interactions luke had with Alice
luke [10:18 AM]
By all means, tell us.
[10:18]
luke
12:21 PM I passed the cork test?
alice
9:36 PM you just dm'd me so i'd say so
luke
9:37 PM Who hasn't?
alice
9:38 PM i have 4 names here, 3 i had to send board pms to
luke
9:38 PM You keeping these names secret?
alice
9:39 PM i hadn't planned on making them public right away
9:39
but
i'm sure you DMed everyone yourself too right
luke
9:40 PM I haven't, actually.
luke
10:15 PM Is vhb on your list?
alice
10:26 PM i guess he should be now that i see his posts made after surly's role pm's sent post have been edited to "."s as of 4 today
luke
10:28 PM I mean, it could be a ploy, I suppose.
10:28
But he's my first guess.
[10:19]
That's literally all of the conversation I had with alice.
[10:19]
Talking about the cork master.
hollywood [10:28 AM]
joined #slaintebahailebackroo by invitation from @luke, along with @kip, @justinkiler5
luke [10:28 AM]
Let's get you guys voting for me on the same page with this.
[10:30]
From my point of view, it's looking like there was a hunch from alice, the known tanner, then a bunch of other people coming out of the woodwork.
justinkiler5 [10:31 AM]
thats the worst case scenario
[10:31]
the best is that you were scanned and we are acting on that info
luke [10:32 AM]
drew just said up there that my interaction with alice was noteworthy.
drew [10:32 AM]
no, I said I knew what it was
luke [10:34 AM]
So mentioning that is a non-sequitur?
justinkiler5 [10:34 AM]
this back room does not feel safe. I don not feel safe with suspected radicals. goodbye
justinkiler5 [10:34 AM]
left #slaintebahailebackroo
floyd [10:35 AM]
love werewolf
[10:36]
its gotta be disappointing luke to roll wolf and get lynched day 1
[10:36]
the new trask
drew [10:39 AM]
luke if you're a good guy why not just go along with this and expose me as evil
luke [10:40 AM]
Go along with it how?
drew [10:40 AM]
you don't want to die because you're evil
luke [10:40 AM]
Nobody wants to die from a witchhunt.
[10:40]
I'm just asking questions.
laserblast [10:41 AM]
There is another explanation, of course. I don't know which one to believe.
luke [10:41 AM]
I'm genuinely curious as to what made alice decide I was bad, cause that's were this started from my end.
[10:42]
where
laserblast [10:43 AM]
Luke, a question. Let's say you're good. Why would a handful of Radicals risk outing themselves this early in the game? The explanation should not be "they suck at this game," because most of them do not.
[10:43]
I'm trying to wrap my head around all the possible explanations here.
luke [10:44 AM]
Obviously alice wasn't, I think floyd is what he says he is (or at least another neutral), and I'm not sure the play after that.
laserblast [10:45 AM]
Huh.
luke [10:46 AM]
I could be on FJM's list, I dunno.
laserblast [10:46 AM]
Ahh. Well, now we're getting somewhere.
luke [10:49 AM]
Look, in all honesty, I am genuinely curious about what alice has to say.
[10:49]
I'd like at least to live the day for the question to be answered.
floyd [10:50 AM]
yeah
luke [10:50 AM]
I honestly don't expect to live long, so a lynch against me is disappointing, but I'm not missing out on a lot of gameplay.
floyd [10:52 AM]
I think you should probably not let him live to tomorrow
[10:52]
but thats just me
luke [10:53 AM]
floyd, are you father john misty?
[10:53]
Just curious.
[10:53]
Or the groupie, I suppose.
laserblast [10:53 AM]
I did consider that Palmer/Luke could be rolling some triple-deep FJM ish
floyd [10:53 AM]
if fjm's plan was to tell a big ass lie and kill one of the best players well their plan sucks
luke [10:55 AM]
I'm a pretty easy target, I'm not sure why fjm's list wouldn't have my name on it.
drew [10:55 AM]
if luke was a fjm target all fjm would have to do is wait a couple days and if he was still alive a lynch would be easy
[10:55]
but luke is a radical
[10:55]
so we need to lynch him today
floyd [10:55 AM]
I'm not fjm tho, and dunno how their mechanic works
[10:55]
i am what I say
luke [10:56 AM]
drew seems to really not want to hear what alice has to say.
drew [10:56 AM]
I know what alice has to say
[10:56]
everything alice knew I know (edited)
floyd [10:56 AM]
"kill luke"
drew [10:56 AM]
lol
floyd [10:56 AM]
but today would be much much better for the good guys
neil_painter [11:02 AM]
Do we know what Luke is if he's a radical?
[11:03]
I'm assuming there was a scan here and that somehow the good possibility from that scan was eliminated
floyd [11:03 AM]
Luke is a thing you should kill imo
neil_painter [11:03 AM]
I don't think it matters much what he is - if he's radical he needs to die - but it'd be good to know there's a scan here and not a hunch or whatever
[11:05]
I can't see the upside of werd outing himself if he's lying so I guess I'm inclined to believe Luke is bad tho
laserblast [11:06 AM]
The upside is that werd could be regular Radical and Luke could be something rad. Still.
[11:06]
This game is finally making me rue not playing Town of Salem.
floyd [11:06 AM]
would these people go on the line d1 if it didn't mean eliminating the radicals best player?
[11:07]
probably not
neil_painter [11:07 AM]
Well that would be a cool play but we'd still get a radical in that scenario
laserblast [11:07 AM]
I dunno, Palmer, would evil Alice try to work his way into a cabal even though it was a cockamamie plan that had little chance of working?
drew [11:07 AM]
and how would the radicals know luke was something rad?
luke [11:07 AM]
drew's been hinting he has a scan.
[11:08]
Let's hear what it is.
laserblast [11:08 AM]
That's a great question, werd, but I'm in the dark here and grasping at straws
drew [11:08 AM]
sacrificing a radical just to take out a strong player would be dumb
[11:08]
he could be the barista or ghost or anonymous for all the radicals would know
[11:08]
but he's a radical, and we need to lynch him
neil_painter [11:09 AM]
What kind of radical is he tho
luke [11:09 AM]
I'm not asking if you're the detective, drew, just want you to say there's a scan.
drew [11:11 AM]
luke, I'll say this. your behaviour in private conversations with alice and myself and a few other combined with your oddly defensive behaviour early in this room is what pointed us in your direction
[11:11]
and now we know that you are a radical
laserblast [11:12 AM]
Werd, another question
luke [11:12 AM]
Would you like me to post the entirety of our conversation, drew?
[11:13]
Nothing I've said there I'm opposed to letting everyone see.
laserblast [11:13 AM]
If Luke's a radical, and this all went down n1 and got back to Luke, is the squatter not protecting him?
drew [11:13 AM]
squatter can only protect themselves
[11:13]
by squatting in someone elses house
luke [11:14 AM]
drew, you're not answering some very simple questions.
drew [11:14 AM]
drew [5:25 PM]
so whats the role this time?
luke [5:28 PM]
Wait, lemme check who you are, I never keep names straight.
drew [5:28 PM]
read it backwards
luke [5:29 PM]
Ah.
[5:29]
You cryptic sob.
[5:30]
Anyway, I have a role that will help rajada later on.
drew [5:30 PM]
nice, I am a villager
luke [5:30 PM]
Not the medium.
drew [5:30 PM]
actually this time
[5:31]
there are a couple roles you could be implying, all very cool and all ones I am glad not to have landed
luke [5:32 PM]
I could also just be a lying villager, or a lying radical.
drew [5:32 PM]
you could
luke [5:33 PM]
But we'll find out when I'm killed early.
drew [5:33 PM]
do you expect to be second or third?
luke [5:34 PM]
Sometimes they search from the bottom.
[5:34]
So maybe I'll last a while, but I doubt it.
[5:34]
I may make more mixtapes.
drew [5:34 PM]
I never understood that
[5:34]
cause I wasnt in that game
luke [5:34 PM]
Oh, right.
[5:35]
Well, they never came into play that last game, so it's probably irrelevant.
drew [5:35 PM]
some sort of device to confirm you were good or something was all I remember
luke [5:36 PM]
Well, less to confirm I was good, but more to use after I had been confirmed good.
floyd [11:15 AM]
I would not answer luke's questions generally since he is evil and good at the game
luke [11:15 AM]
I wouldn't listen to a tanner's reasoning because I am good at this game.
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floyd [11:15 AM]
boom glittered
[11:16]
I think we will all agree
[11:16]
I am not a normal tanner
luke [11:16 AM]
So, what's the smoking gun there, drew?
[11:17]
Is there someone else's conversation you'd like me to post?
drew [11:17 AM]
your behaviour is reminiscent of early transylvania
luke [11:18 AM]
Or anyone else accused with no reason.
[11:18]
If you've got a scan from anyone else, that'd help a lot.
laserblast [11:18 AM]
Luke, how would TE know you've got an important role? Because you told people?
luke [11:18 AM]
Yeah.
[11:18]
That's been my story to everyone.
laserblast [11:18 AM]
In that case, why would you tell people?
floyd [11:19 AM]
teehee
[11:19]
here it comes right
luke [11:19 AM]
Why not?
[11:19]
I die quick.
[11:19]
I have to play aggressively.
[11:20]
Last I checked, HP had me tell everyone I was MWPP first night.
laserblast [11:20 AM]
You also cooked up a scheme to prove it
luke [11:20 AM]
I don't have that scheme this time.
[11:20]
I probably could've lied and sent more youtubes.
laserblast [11:22 AM]
Okay, I'm gonna repeat a question. You are very good at this, obviously. So let's say you HAD to come up with a reason for why so many people are willing to stick their necks out right now. What is it? Just that you told people you were a good special? And if so, did you anticipate this happening?
neil_painter [11:22 AM]
Yea the reason to tell everyone you were a good special in HP was your scheme
[11:23]
Without a corresponding scheme here it's just bad play
luke [11:23 AM]
I genuinely think there was someone talking to alice previously.
neil_painter [11:23 AM]
And I don't buy bad play from Luke
laserblast [11:23 AM]
Everyone can play poorly, it just doesn't add up to me.
luke [11:23 AM]
tanner play is just tanner play.
[11:24]
after that, it seems that mostly werd and lod are spearheading this.
laserblast [11:24 AM]
That explains Palmer.
[11:24]
It does not explain LOD and Werd.
luke [11:24 AM]
And I've been told that my behavior is the reason why.
neil_painter [11:24 AM]
Discounting Palmer, I don't see why the radicals would want to trade one of them or more for 1 maybe special
luke [11:25 AM]
If drew has a scan, from himself or otherwise, then he should claim it.
[11:25]
If he doesn't, all he can speak to is that I was weird in private, and I've been open with all of those communications.
floyd [11:26 AM]
giving up info just helps evil here
[11:26]
kill luke
[11:26]
you'll know
luke [11:27 AM]
It also helps make you guys look like you're not working an angle.
laserblast [11:29 AM]
Luke another question
luke [11:30 AM]
Yep?
laserblast [11:30 AM]
We just finished Secret Hitler, a game in which you allowed screenshots of moderator PMs by _video_ because you knew people wouldn't believe them. Why set up a group of potential goods "for information sharing" given that stated philosophy?
luke [11:31 AM]
Because the rules here are different?
[11:31]
I'm lax with info sharing in my own games.
[11:32]
But good or evil, I hope you guys know me well enough that I'm not going to straight up cheat.
laserblast [11:32 AM]
Oh, I'm not accusing cheating.
[11:32]
I'm saying it seems to run contra your philosophy of "trust no one." (edited)
[11:33]
I know you wouldn't cheat.
luke [11:33 AM]
This isn't a room for secret information.
[11:33]
I've been very clear about that.
laserblast [11:34 AM]
That doesn't really answer my question.
luke [11:34 AM]
I don't trust people in this room, so I'm not following how it runs contra my philosophy.
laserblast [11:36 AM]
It is still possibly advantageous for members of TE to know how members of TG are thinking, even if no privileged information is shared. Imagine getting to watch Masonchat, e.g., with all the names stripped out.
luke [11:38 AM]
You can make that argument to any type of in game communication.
laserblast [11:39 AM]
Sure, but a large group setting offers more opportunity.
[11:39]
Though I do get the counterargument.
neil_painter [12:03 PM]
Luke why do you keep bringing up the medium talking to Alice? Mudd already stated that Alice's rationale was if you were still alive after n1 you were likely evil
floyd [12:04 PM]
he's stalling obviously
neil_painter [12:04 PM]
I don't buy that rationale but it seems there are other accusations now
luke [12:04 PM]
I haven't seen a good accusation.
floyd [12:04 PM]
good players want luke dead
[12:04]
seems like a good accusation
neil_painter [12:04 PM]
My point was we already know Alice's rationale
luke [12:04 PM]
Then give me a good accusation.
neil_painter [12:05 PM]
Well I'm not the one accusing you
[12:05]
I'm just watching
floyd [12:05 PM]
you should kill him tho
[12:05]
it will be very satisfying
[12:05]
when you see the death reveal
[12:05]
luke was a bad bad man
neil_painter [12:05 PM]
Lol
[12:05]
I'm so sold
luke [12:06 PM]
Basically, this looks to have started from drew and kit.
[12:07]
I brought them here and asked them for something for me to respond to.
[12:07]
I posted my convos with alice, and drew posted my convo with him.
laserblast [12:08 PM]
Hey Palmer what's your play now
floyd [12:08 PM]
watch luke die
[12:08]
watch the good people celebrate this unlikely turn of events
[12:08]
see if any good people want to contact each other
[12:08]
see if the wolves don't like that
neil_painter [12:10 PM]
It seems very unlikely the wolves will waste a kill on the tanner no matter what you do
floyd [12:10 PM]
let's be real they will probably kill werd or lod but I'm telling them since they're in here I'm the real danger
neil_painter [12:10 PM]
What's your plan if they don't bite on you
floyd [12:10 PM]
keep killing them
[12:10]
it's more fun
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Stuntman wrote:Does anyone remember Late Night Cheeseburger? That was my jam. Tasted like BO.
Stuntman wrote:Does anyone remember Late Night Cheeseburger? That was my jam. Tasted like BO.
Stuntman wrote:Does anyone remember Late Night Cheeseburger? That was my jam. Tasted like BO.
Stuntman wrote:Does anyone remember Late Night Cheeseburger? That was my jam. Tasted like BO.
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